Works of Fiction and Electomagnetic Pulses

One_Pierced_One · Joined: 12 Dec 2007 Posts: 2

There use to be a time when I would post here--years ago--and back
then some of the smartest people in the world hung out here.

And recently, when I found myself facing a question that only smart
people could help me answer I came here.

It looks from the recent "Lurker Roll Call" that there are still quite
a few geniuses here? So would you like to help me out as I do research
for a work of fiction? If I sell it and become a multi-bijillionaire
becase of your assitance I will mention RHOD in the dedication. Deal?

What I need to know about is electro-magnetic pulses and the likely
effect on electronics. I've seen demostrations where an
electro-magnetic pulse is shot through a vehicle and the vehicle dies,
its circuit boards fried out.

I've also heard that such a pulse could be produced from some possible
sources, like high energy burst of gamma radiation in space, or a
large nuclear device being detonated in the upper atmosphere, or even
in theory, the Large Hadron Collider. Let's assume for now that the
source of the pulse is as important as the effects on earth.

If such a pulse did happen, would the damage to electronics be
permanent? If not how long would they be disabled?

If it was permenant, what would it take to repair the devices?

How extensive would the damage be, I mean would it be anything with a
transisitor? Would devices that ran on vacuum tubes be immune? What
about cars with mechanical points and old fashion ignition coils,
would they be spared?

I have more questions, but depending on the answers to these they may
be moot.

I realize traffic here is low, and the servers are obscure any more.
Isn't it odd that the end of Usenet shares many parallels with its
beginning?

And before anyone asks, yes I asked the Oracle already.

Archived from group: rec>humor>oracle>d

One_Pierced_One · Joined: 12 Dec 2007 Posts: 2

On Wed, 12 Dec 2007 11:06:25 -0600, One_Pierced_One
wrote:

>It looks from the recent "Lurker Roll Call" that there are still quite
>a few geniuses here? So would you like to help me out as I do research
>for a work of fiction? If I sell it and become a multi-bijillionaire
>becase of your assitance I will mention RHOD in the dedication. Deal?

s/becase/because
s/assitance/assistance

>
>What I need to know about is electro-magnetic pulses and the likely
>effect on electronics. I've seen demostrations where an
>electro-magnetic pulse is shot through a vehicle and the vehicle dies,
>its circuit boards fried out.
>

s/demostrations/demonstrations

>I've also heard that such a pulse could be produced from some possible
>sources, like high energy burst of gamma radiation in space, or a
>large nuclear device being detonated in the upper atmosphere, or even
>in theory, the Large Hadron Collider. Let's assume for now that the
>source of the pulse is as important as the effects on earth.
>
>If such a pulse did happen, would the damage to electronics be
>permanent? If not how long would they be disabled?
>
>If it was permenant, what would it take to repair the devices?

s/permenant/permanent

>
>How extensive would the damage be, I mean would it be anything with a
>transisitor? Would devices that ran on vacuum tubes be immune? What
>about cars with mechanical points and old fashion ignition coils,
>would they be spared?

s/transisitor/transistor

>
>I have more questions, but depending on the answers to these they may
>be moot.
>
>I realize traffic here is low, and the servers are obscure any more.
>Isn't it odd that the end of Usenet shares many parallels with its
>beginning?
>
>And before anyone asks, yes I asked the Oracle already.

I copied and pasted the wrong damn post....I'm a noob, give me a
break.

Yeah, and I'm a virgin too before anyone asks.

Kegs · Joined: 08 Aug 2007 Posts: 9

One_Pierced_One writes:

> On Wed, 12 Dec 2007 11:06:25 -0600, One_Pierced_One
> wrote:
>>If such a pulse did happen, would the damage to electronics be
>>permanent? If not how long would they be disabled?
>>
>>If it was permenant, what would it take to repair the devices?
>
> s/permenant/permanent
>
>>
>>How extensive would the damage be, I mean would it be anything with a
>>transisitor? Would devices that ran on vacuum tubes be immune? What
>>about cars with mechanical points and old fashion ignition coils,
>>would they be spared?
>
> s/transisitor/transistor

Hi DMP, how are things?

IIRC, and I'm sure someon will correct me if I am, the damage is permanent,
but only affects devices with transistors.

Your 1950's ford/chevy/GMC pickup would be absolutely fine.

I'm not sure what it takes to repair the damage, but I do know that is is
possible to harden electronics against the effects of EMP.
>
> I copied and pasted the wrong damn post....I'm a noob, give me a
> break.

Very Happy

> Yeah, and I'm a virgin too before anyone asks.

We figured :p

--
James jamesk[at]homeric[dot]co[dot]uk

Bend the facts to fit the conclusion. It's easier that way.

One_Pierced_One · Joined: 12 Dec 2007 Posts: 9

On Wed, 12 Dec 2007, Kegs wrote:

> One_Pierced_One writes:
>
>> On Wed, 12 Dec 2007 11:06:25 -0600, One_Pierced_One
>> wrote:
>
> Hi DMP, how are things?

Really good, I changed careers, changed wives...life is beautiful. I'm no
long a computer geek (at least not for a living) I'm a paralegal now, its
a strange world we live in.

The new wife, isn't quite a wife yet, but she said she'll eventually say
yes, so I think that means the same thing as yes. And this time she's not
inflatable, although I still can't figure out 13 orafices to use.

>
> IIRC, and I'm sure someon will correct me if I am, the damage is permanent,
> but only affects devices with transistors.

So that is it right, a transistor and not some other esoteric electronic
piece? Its not the gaba-teton inverter?

>
> Your 1950's ford/chevy/GMC pickup would be absolutely fine.
>
> I'm not sure what it takes to repair the damage, but I do know that is is
> possible to harden electronics against the effects of EMP.

That's all pretty much what I had thought...thanks, I do appreciate it...

What this is all leading up to of course, is that the infrastructure is
run by electronics. If said electronics fry out in one sudden burst, it
would be a struggle to get things running to the point necessary to make
transistors...

Cars, phones, electrical supply, water pumps, sewage pumps, gasoline
refinaries--all of it.

Things that weren't affected might run for a while(Like the 1950 Ford
truck), but without the infrastructure to keep providing fuel they would
have to be modified to use a more readily available fuel. But I think
most people would be struggling to survive in a new world where food wasn't
in stores.

Its a fictional apocalypse that doesn't involve a war...and its only a
minor note at the beginning of an otherwise perfect piece of pornography.

>>
>> I copied and pasted the wrong damn post....I'm a noob, give me a
>> break.
>
> Very Happy

>
>> Yeah, and I'm a virgin too before anyone asks.
>
> We figured :p

Well I'm hoping to move out of my mom's basement soon and when that
happens I'll be unstoppable.

>
> --
> James jamesk[at]homeric[dot]co[dot]uk
>
> Bend the facts to fit the conclusion. It's easier that way.

God Rudy · Joined: 08 Aug 2007 Posts: 8

On Wed, 12 Dec 2007 11:06:25 -0600, One_Pierced_One wrote:

> There use to be a time when I would post here--years ago--and back
> then some of the smartest people in the world hung out here.
>
> And recently, when I found myself facing a question that only smart
> people could help me answer I came here.
>
> It looks from the recent "Lurker Roll Call" that there are still quite
> a few geniuses here? So would you like to help me out as I do research
> for a work of fiction? If I sell it and become a multi-bijillionaire
> becase of your assitance I will mention RHOD in the dedication. Deal?

OK

>
> What I need to know about is electro-magnetic pulses and the likely
> effect on electronics. I've seen demostrations where an
> electro-magnetic pulse is shot through a vehicle and the vehicle dies,
> its circuit boards fried out.

As Kegs said, older vehicles (without any electronics) will be fine.

>
> I've also heard that such a pulse could be produced from some possible
> sources, like high energy burst of gamma radiation in space, or a
> large nuclear device being detonated in the upper atmosphere, or even
> in theory, the Large Hadron Collider. Let's assume for now that the
> source of the pulse is as important as the effects on earth.

You are forgeting a important source: Lightning!

>
> If such a pulse did happen, would the damage to electronics be
> permanent? If not how long would they be disabled?

We had a lightning strike VERY close to the house (10-20 feet). This
strike did some major damage. As in:
- two CCTV cameras went "dead"
- the attached "video multiplexer" (4 pictures in one) got slightly
damaged, even when the video cables went through a lightning arrestor!
- we have some network cables between three houses, those cables acted as
antennas and put that EMP to many computers.
- I had about 8 fried network cards and 3 fried switches
- some of the network cards had no direct connection to the long runs, but
had some cables running paralell ...
- alltogether about US$800 damage.

>
> If it was permenant, what would it take to repair the devices?

Depends on the device.
- A old transistor radio with discrete trasistors: replace one or two.
- Same as above with some early integrated circuits: replace the chip.
- iPod, PDA, Cell Phone ... --> Most probably dead from a nuclear EMP.
- same with 99% of all computers and networking equipment.

>
> How extensive would the damage be, I mean would it be anything with a
> transisitor? Would devices that ran on vacuum tubes be immune? What
> about cars with mechanical points and old fashion ignition coils, would
> they be spared?

All you would get on a vacuum tube radio are a few crackels ... An old car
might missfire once or twice (if that much) ...
The only "guaranteed" protection: have the equipment in a tight faraday
cage with no connection to the outside.

>
> I have more questions, but depending on the answers to these they may be
> moot.

I might have more detailed answers ...

>
> I realize traffic here is low, and the servers are obscure any more.
> Isn't it odd that the end of Usenet shares many parallels with its
> beginning?
>
> And before anyone asks, yes I asked the Oracle already.

Whatever · Joined: 08 Aug 2007 Posts: 20

One_Pierced_One wrote:

> What this is all leading up to of course, is that the infrastructure
> is run by electronics. If said electronics fry out in one sudden
> burst, it would be a struggle to get things running to the point
> necessary to make transistors...
>
> Cars, phones, electrical supply, water pumps, sewage pumps, gasoline
> refinaries--all of it.
>
> Things that weren't affected might run for a while(Like the 1950 Ford
> truck), but without the infrastructure to keep providing fuel they
> would have to be modified to use a more readily available fuel. But I
> think most people would be struggling to survive in a new world where
> food wasn't in stores.
>
> Its a fictional apocalypse that doesn't involve a war...and its only a
> minor note at the beginning of an otherwise perfect piece of
> pornography.

Hey, that's pretty good. Maybe you could sell the TV rights to an
independent network and have Jessica Alba star as a genetic mutant trained
with superior fighting skills, who occasionally goes into heat because part
of her DNA is from a cat, and who takes a job as a bicycle courier delivery
service. She would need to suppliment her diet with tryptophan or she
would go into convulsions, because every super-hero needs a weakness. Her
black roommate could have the most trendy expressions and call her "Boo"
all the time until you're ready to shoot the TV, because, of course, the
only reason anyone is watching is to see Jessica kick ass in a form-fitting
costume.

Phew... I think I'd better go have a lie-down, my arm is getting tired.

One_Pierced_One · Joined: 12 Dec 2007 Posts: 9

On Thu, 13 Dec 2007, Whatever wrote:

> One_Pierced_One wrote:
>
>> What this is all leading up to of course, is that the infrastructure
>> is run by electronics. If said electronics fry out in one sudden
>> burst, it would be a struggle to get things running to the point
>> necessary to make transistors...
>>
>> Cars, phones, electrical supply, water pumps, sewage pumps, gasoline
>> refinaries--all of it.
>>
>> Things that weren't affected might run for a while(Like the 1950 Ford
>> truck), but without the infrastructure to keep providing fuel they
>> would have to be modified to use a more readily available fuel. But I
>> think most people would be struggling to survive in a new world where
>> food wasn't in stores.
>>
>> Its a fictional apocalypse that doesn't involve a war...and its only a
>> minor note at the beginning of an otherwise perfect piece of
>> pornography.
>
> Hey, that's pretty good. Maybe you could sell the TV rights to an
> independent network and have Jessica Alba star as a genetic mutant trained
> with superior fighting skills, who occasionally goes into heat because part
> of her DNA is from a cat, and who takes a job as a bicycle courier delivery
> service. She would need to suppliment her diet with tryptophan or she
> would go into convulsions, because every super-hero needs a weakness. Her
> black roommate could have the most trendy expressions and call her "Boo"
> all the time until you're ready to shoot the TV, because, of course, the
> only reason anyone is watching is to see Jessica kick ass in a form-fitting
> costume.

Uh...no. Not quite, but almost entirely unlike that. In my story she
never takes a job as a bicycle courier, she's an erotic dancer who has a
heart of gold, and her weakness isn't tryptophan supplements, but a
need for regular injections of hot man chowder on her face or else her skin
turns into scales belying her true identity has half giant-lizard with
advanced technology she keeps on her toolbelt that always seems to have
just the right techno-gadget readily at hand for any situation and she has
a boyfriend who is a viking(misplaced in time)his struggle as he sort of
fits in with this world in his beautifully manly (and handsomely stupid)
way working as a cashier in a small convience store in New Jersey and
befriending the wacky locals like the two guys who stand in front of store
fast talking strangers as they aimless go through life but one of them is
actually a robot who is very depressed due to faulty wiring in his emotion
circuits who was abandoned here with the Viking in a strange temporal
whirlpool through which other amusing characters from history sometimes
drop in on the action causing much hiliarity and hijinks with four of them
(Ghandi, Hitler, Nixon, and King George III) moving into a nice
brownstone up the street (which will be a spin-off show the following
season that is a sort of mock Big Brother affair and the hijinks that
ensue when four of History's most disparate characters get together from
out of time) and later we find out that our heroine was turned into
half-lizard half erotic dancer by a freak accident when she worked for a
strange outfit in London (the name of which is WRATH D (which is actually
an anagram for a mysterious character from an almost totally unrelated
series called Dr. What (in the plot line for Dr. What gets the Noids an
organization called WRATH D haunts the good Doctor's imagination (he is
convinced they are out to destroy him, whether or not they really are is
never revealed as the distinction between fantasy and reality is so
blurred we never can be sure which is which in sort of an homage to
Jacob's Ladder)))WRATH D will later become a small series on its own that
never really makes it past the initial pilot episodes) and while she is
working for this strange shadow-world outfit she is sprayed by a giant
intelligent roach from a distant plant with some sort of bugspray (an
ironic twist that we are considered vermin by the roaches) and that bug
spray is what makes her mutate.

And the she gets hit by a bus.

>
> Phew... I think I'd better go have a lie-down, my arm is getting tired.
>

One_Pierced_One · Joined: 12 Dec 2007 Posts: 9

On Wed, 12 Dec 2007, God Rudy wrote:

> On Wed, 12 Dec 2007 11:06:25 -0600, One_Pierced_One wrote:
>
>> There use to be a time when I would post here--years ago--and back
>> then some of the smartest people in the world hung out here.
>>
>> And recently, when I found myself facing a question that only smart
>> people could help me answer I came here.
>>
>> It looks from the recent "Lurker Roll Call" that there are still quite
>> a few geniuses here? So would you like to help me out as I do research
>> for a work of fiction? If I sell it and become a multi-bijillionaire
>> becase of your assitance I will mention RHOD in the dedication. Deal?
>
> OK

I love it when you're easy.

>
>>
>> What I need to know about is electro-magnetic pulses and the likely
>> effect on electronics. I've seen demostrations where an
>> electro-magnetic pulse is shot through a vehicle and the vehicle dies,
>> its circuit boards fried out.
>
> As Kegs said, older vehicles (without any electronics) will be fine.
>
>>
>> I've also heard that such a pulse could be produced from some possible
>> sources, like high energy burst of gamma radiation in space, or a
>> large nuclear device being detonated in the upper atmosphere, or even
>> in theory, the Large Hadron Collider. Let's assume for now that the
>> source of the pulse is as important as the effects on earth.
>
> You are forgeting a important source: Lightning!

I was sort of trying to figure out how it would play out if the
destruction was simultaneous (or over the course of a day or two) and
worldwide. And if such a large EMP is even possible without being
powerful enough to boil away the atmosphere.

But it doesn't really matter too much, its only a setting for a whorehouse
in an western town, I was hoping to have people worried that the streets
would again turn to dust and we'd be living in ramshackled wooden houses
as horse drawn wagons rumble by in the dust (the wagons made out of old,
otherwise unusable automobile shells). And of course the Madam of the
whorehouse is a bawdy old women...with a heart of gold...and she gathers
her moxie and makes a stand for women's rights in a world gone mad.

>
>>
>> If such a pulse did happen, would the damage to electronics be
>> permanent? If not how long would they be disabled?
>
> We had a lightning strike VERY close to the house (10-20 feet). This
> strike did some major damage. As in:
> - two CCTV cameras went "dead"
> - the attached "video multiplexer" (4 pictures in one) got slightly
> damaged, even when the video cables went through a lightning arrestor!
> - we have some network cables between three houses, those cables acted as
> antennas and put that EMP to many computers.
> - I had about 8 fried network cards and 3 fried switches
> - some of the network cards had no direct connection to the long runs, but
> had some cables running paralell ...
> - alltogether about US$800 damage.
>
>>
>> If it was permenant, what would it take to repair the devices?
>
> Depends on the device.
> - A old transistor radio with discrete trasistors: replace one or two.
> - Same as above with some early integrated circuits: replace the chip.
> - iPod, PDA, Cell Phone ... --> Most probably dead from a nuclear EMP.
> - same with 99% of all computers and networking equipment.

Would transistors that are sitting on a shelf in warehouses be damaged?

>
>>
>> How extensive would the damage be, I mean would it be anything with a
>> transisitor? Would devices that ran on vacuum tubes be immune? What
>> about cars with mechanical points and old fashion ignition coils, would
>> they be spared?
>
> All you would get on a vacuum tube radio are a few crackels ... An old car
> might missfire once or twice (if that much) ...
> The only "guaranteed" protection: have the equipment in a tight faraday
> cage with no connection to the outside.

Which would be great if you know the surge was coming!

>
>>
>> I have more questions, but depending on the answers to these they may be
>> moot.
>
> I might have more detailed answers ...
>
>>
>> I realize traffic here is low, and the servers are obscure any more.
>> Isn't it odd that the end of Usenet shares many parallels with its
>> beginning?
>>
>> And before anyone asks, yes I asked the Oracle already.
>

By the way he gave me a helpful, practical answer, and was overly polite
about that. Is something wrong with the system?

>
>
>

God Rudy · Joined: 08 Aug 2007 Posts: 8

On Thu, 13 Dec 2007 09:24:49 -0600, One_Pierced_One wrote:

>
>
> I was sort of trying to figure out how it would play out if the
> destruction was simultaneous (or over the course of a day or two) and
> worldwide. And if such a large EMP is even possible without being
> powerful enough to boil away the atmosphere.

Make that not one, but "a few" EMPs nicely distributed all around the
globe ...

>
> But it doesn't really matter too much, its only a setting for a whorehouse
> in an western town, I was hoping to have people worried that the streets
> would again turn to dust and we'd be living in ramshackled wooden houses
> as horse drawn wagons rumble by in the dust (the wagons made out of old,
> otherwise unusable automobile shells). And of course the Madam of the
> whorehouse is a bawdy old women...with a heart of gold...and she gathers
> her moxie and makes a stand for women's rights in a world gone mad.
>

Sounds like a fun place Smile

>
> Would transistors that are sitting on a shelf in warehouses be damaged?
>

Depends on the building, room and shelve. Most of the shelves we used,
where made from steel, they would act like a faraday cage and protect the
content. (but not garantee Smile

>
> Which would be great if you know the surge was coming!
>

Sounds like the standard military test Smile

>

> By the way he gave me a helpful, practical answer, and was overly polite
> about that. Is something wrong with the system?
>

Must be some new ones ...

P.S.
I assume that your "From:" email address is valid.
Going to send you some more info.

Jeffrey Kaplan · Joined: 08 Aug 2007 Posts: 65

Previously on rec.humor.oracle.d, Whatever said:

> > Its a fictional apocalypse that doesn't involve a war...and its only a
> > minor note at the beginning of an otherwise perfect piece of
> > pornography.
>
> Hey, that's pretty good. Maybe you could sell the TV rights to an
> independent network and have Jessica Alba star as a genetic mutant trained
> with superior fighting skills, who occasionally goes into heat because part

I didn't know that Fox was an "independent network".

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"I swear if I live through this someone's going to find their automatic
shower preferences reprogrammed for ice water." (Cmdr. Ivanova, B5 "A
Day In The Strife")

Jeffrey Kaplan · Joined: 08 Aug 2007 Posts: 65

Previously on rec.humor.oracle.d, One_Pierced_One said:

> Uh...no. Not quite, but almost entirely unlike that. In my story she
> never takes a job as a bicycle courier, she's an erotic dancer who has a
> heart of gold, and her weakness isn't tryptophan supplements, but a
> need for regular injections of hot man chowder on her face or else her skin
> turns into scales belying her true identity has half giant-lizard with
> advanced technology she keeps on her toolbelt that always seems to have
> just the right techno-gadget readily at hand for any situation and she has
> a boyfriend who is a viking(misplaced in time)his struggle as he sort of
> fits in with this world in his beautifully manly (and handsomely stupid)
> way working as a cashier in a small convience store in New Jersey and
> befriending the wacky locals like the two guys who stand in front of store
> fast talking strangers as they aimless go through life but one of them is
> actually a robot who is very depressed due to faulty wiring in his emotion
> circuits who was abandoned here with the Viking in a strange temporal
> whirlpool through which other amusing characters from history sometimes
> drop in on the action causing much hiliarity and hijinks with four of them
> (Ghandi, Hitler, Nixon, and King George III) moving into a nice
> brownstone up the street (which will be a spin-off show the following
> season that is a sort of mock Big Brother affair and the hijinks that
> ensue when four of History's most disparate characters get together from
> out of time) and later we find out that our heroine was turned into
> half-lizard half erotic dancer by a freak accident when she worked for a
> strange outfit in London (the name of which is WRATH D (which is actually
> an anagram for a mysterious character from an almost totally unrelated
> series called Dr. What (in the plot line for Dr. What gets the Noids an
> organization called WRATH D haunts the good Doctor's imagination (he is
> convinced they are out to destroy him, whether or not they really are is
> never revealed as the distinction between fantasy and reality is so
> blurred we never can be sure which is which in sort of an homage to
> Jacob's Ladder)))WRATH D will later become a small series on its own that
> never really makes it past the initial pilot episodes) and while she is
> working for this strange shadow-world outfit she is sprayed by a giant
> intelligent roach from a distant plant with some sort of bugspray (an
> ironic twist that we are considered vermin by the roaches) and that bug
> spray is what makes her mutate.

Beige...

--
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The from userid is killfiled Send personal mail to gordol

"I swear if I live through this someone's going to find their automatic
shower preferences reprogrammed for ice water." (Cmdr. Ivanova, B5 "A
Day In The Strife")

One_Pierced_One · Joined: 12 Dec 2007 Posts: 9

On Thu, 13 Dec 2007, God Rudy wrote:

> On Thu, 13 Dec 2007 09:24:49 -0600, One_Pierced_One wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> I was sort of trying to figure out how it would play out if the
>> destruction was simultaneous (or over the course of a day or two) and
>> worldwide. And if such a large EMP is even possible without being
>> powerful enough to boil away the atmosphere.
>
> Make that not one, but "a few" EMPs nicely distributed all around the
> globe ...

Well that's why I thought of the gamma ray burst, from my understanding
they are not well understood and the period of the burst might just be
longer than 24 hours...Instead of a flash bulb, think sunami of space
energy...

Fortunately I have some lee-way, its a work of fiction for God's sake!

>
>>
>> But it doesn't really matter too much, its only a setting for a whorehouse
>> in an western town, I was hoping to have people worried that the streets
>> would again turn to dust and we'd be living in ramshackled wooden houses
>> as horse drawn wagons rumble by in the dust (the wagons made out of old,
>> otherwise unusable automobile shells). And of course the Madam of the
>> whorehouse is a bawdy old women...with a heart of gold...and she gathers
>> her moxie and makes a stand for women's rights in a world gone mad.
>>
>
> Sounds like a fun place Smile

Yeah, I thought so, I wanted to include a postman who was saving
America...

>
>>
>> Would transistors that are sitting on a shelf in warehouses be damaged?
>>
>
> Depends on the building, room and shelve. Most of the shelves we used,
> where made from steel, they would act like a faraday cage and protect the
> content. (but not garantee Smile

Gotcha

>
>>
>> Which would be great if you know the surge was coming!
>>
>
> Sounds like the standard military test Smile

>>
>
>> By the way he gave me a helpful, practical answer, and was overly polite
>> about that. Is something wrong with the system?
>>
>
> Must be some new ones ...
>
>
> P.S.
> I assume that your "From:" email address is valid.
> Going to send you some more info.
>
>

I got that Sir, and I appreciate it!

One_Pierced_One · Joined: 12 Dec 2007 Posts: 9

On Thu, 13 Dec 2007, Jeffrey Kaplan wrote:

> Previously on rec.humor.oracle.d, One_Pierced_One said:
>
> Beige...

I hate beige, can't we go with the light taupe instead?

Daniel

BTW, I claim full responsibility for global warming.

Jeffrey Kaplan · Joined: 08 Aug 2007 Posts: 65

Previously on rec.humor.oracle.d, One_Pierced_One said:

> > Sounds like a fun place Smile

>
> Yeah, I thought so, I wanted to include a postman who was saving
> America...

.... while going native with the indigenous peoples who all live on
boats, looking for dry land?

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Heartburn, i.e., mild indigestion. To the uninitiated, however,
cardialgia sounds like a serious disorder of the heart; hence suitable
for excuses, sympathy-seeking ploys, etc.

One_Pierced_One · Joined: 12 Dec 2007 Posts: 9

On Thu, 13 Dec 2007, Jeffrey Kaplan wrote:

> Previously on rec.humor.oracle.d, One_Pierced_One said:
>
>>> Sounds like a fun place Smile

>>
>> Yeah, I thought so, I wanted to include a postman who was saving
>> America...
>
> ... while going native with the indigenous peoples who all live on
> boats, looking for dry land?

Yay for drinking pee!

[rec.arts.sf.written] Re: The NEW hard science fiction Subject: Re: The NEW hard science fiction From: "Mike Schilling" Newsgroups: "Damien Sullivan" wrote in message > > Though I read all the Liaden book

DP Hit in the works? Ooooh, c'mon baby! El Capitan needs his first DP hit!!! Aneurysm, Renal failure, Diabetic Coma! Come on, Jeebus! Call your Sista Home-A! Hell, I don't even mind sharing it with Doc Doody, what with him bein' a fellow Texican and all.

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Photographer Works There was this haunted house on the outskirts of the town which was avoided by all the townfolk - the ghost which `lived' there was feared by all. However, an enterprising journalist decided to get the scoop of the day by photographing the fearsome phanto

I guess it works A young doctor had moved out to a small community to replace a doctor who was retiring. The older doctor suggested the young one accompany him on his rounds so the community could become used to a new doctor. At the first house a woman complained, "I've b