vmware, linux host, w98 guest ...

Hetta · Joined: 08 Aug 2007 Posts: 5

.... it spells trouble.

I've been running linux (suse) for years now, and still have two programs I use
under windows. Wine is no option, cos they don't support paradox8 (a database
program) nor omnipro8 (an optical character recognition program). (Granted, OOo
base looks dandy, where knoda and the other whatnot always crashed for me).
(Granted again, possibly linux OCR will take off one of these days and get more
than, oh, 10 % of the pages right ... that's only 90 % typing by hand, after
all. Eh.)

Win4lin, my windows runner of choice, hasn't had a working suse kernel since
suse 9.0. Suse updates every half year, and we're up to 10.1, so it's been at
least two years now, that I've been installing the newest suse on the laptop
whenever it's appeared, and been trying to get win4lin to run on it.

It's a drag. It's not fun at all when you have a dozen kernel source trees in
your /lib/modules/ directory, most of them called something or other win4lin
(actually netraverse, as they're conservative) because you've tried to get
things running so often.

So I did a clean (and vanilla) install of suse 10.1. And win4lin STILL won't
work, nevermind kernel sources, gcc, gcc++, make, the works.

Today I downloaded vmware workstation 5.5.2. A very good how-to on the web
(on the opensuse site) got it up and running with a minimum of hassle, and I've
even managed to get w98 installed. Things finally start to look rosy.

Except ...

.... I can't see any files in my linux directories from the windows client,
unless I've imported them, tediously, over CD.

Has anybody here run into the same problem, and solved it?

Under win4lin the file system was shared: cut'n'paste things from and to the
windows-only directory tree under linux - or win4lin-w98 - and bob was yer
uncle.

vmware hides the whole shebang in .vmx (or something such) files, and tells me
that I'd need w2000, windows server 2003 (whatever that is), NT4, or XP to see
files from within the windows system. XP? Urgh. NT I dimly remember from days of
old - back then it was a server system, not a desktop one.

Help?

Many thanks
Hetta

--
Henriette Kress, AHG Helsinki, Finland
Henriette's herbal homepage: http://www.henriettesherbal.com

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Mark Steward · Joined: 08 Aug 2007 Posts: 1

"Hetta" wrote in message @4ax.com...
> ... it spells trouble.
>
> I've been running linux (suse) for years now, and still have two programs
> I use
> under windows. Wine is no option, cos they don't support paradox8 (a
> database
> program) nor omnipro8 (an optical character recognition program).
> (Granted, OOo
> base looks dandy, where knoda and the other whatnot always crashed for
> me).
> (Granted again, possibly linux OCR will take off one of these days and get
> more
> than, oh, 10 % of the pages right ... that's only 90 % typing by hand,
> after
> all. Eh.)
>
> Win4lin, my windows runner of choice, hasn't had a working suse kernel
> since
> suse 9.0. Suse updates every half year, and we're up to 10.1, so it's been
> at
> least two years now, that I've been installing the newest suse on the
> laptop
> whenever it's appeared, and been trying to get win4lin to run on it.
>
> It's a drag. It's not fun at all when you have a dozen kernel source trees
> in
> your /lib/modules/ directory, most of them called something or other
> win4lin
> (actually netraverse, as they're conservative) because you've tried to get
> things running so often.
>
> So I did a clean (and vanilla) install of suse 10.1. And win4lin STILL
> won't
> work, nevermind kernel sources, gcc, gcc++, make, the works.
>
> Today I downloaded vmware workstation 5.5.2. A very good how-to on the web
> (on the opensuse site) got it up and running with a minimum of hassle, and
> I've
> even managed to get w98 installed. Things finally start to look rosy.
>
> Except ...
>
> ... I can't see any files in my linux directories from the windows client,
> unless I've imported them, tediously, over CD.
>
> Has anybody here run into the same problem, and solved it?
>
> Under win4lin the file system was shared: cut'n'paste things from and to
> the
> windows-only directory tree under linux - or win4lin-w98 - and bob was yer
> uncle.
>
> vmware hides the whole shebang in .vmx (or something such) files, and
> tells me
> that I'd need w2000, windows server 2003 (whatever that is), NT4, or XP to
> see
> files from within the windows system. XP? Urgh. NT I dimly remember from
> days of
> old - back then it was a server system, not a desktop one.
>
> Help?
>

Have you sorted this yet? If you can get the VMware machine networked, it
would be trivial to synchronise files between the two. I might have some
time soon to test VMWare myself, so let me know if you're still waiting....

Mark

--
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Hetta · Joined: 08 Aug 2007 Posts: 5

"Mark Steward" wrote:

> Have you sorted this yet? If you can get the VMware machine networked, it
> would be trivial to synchronise files between the two. I might have some
> time soon to test VMWare myself, so let me know if you're still waiting....

None of the various emulations I tried worked - and I tried lots. The "win98
can't access local files outside of its virtual disk" is really a showstopper -
I'm not about to install windows xp with all its home-calling things just to run
one or two programs.

So I've ditched all windows emulation for wine + linux-native programs.

Omnipage pro 8 works nicely under the latest version of wine.

Paradox 7 works nicely under wine (paradox 8 doesn't). (I installed it on my
ancient win98 laptop and copied the thing to an USB thingy; paste it into the
wine directory on the linux box and edit wine's registry files, adding all the
various paradox things by hand. It runs smoothly.)

The latest knoda works nicely (on linux), although there's some of the paradox
functionality still missing. As in, knoda won't update a form if the table
behind it is updated under knoda's table thingy ... so you have to close and
open the forms all the time. (It's possible to copy-paste a row in the table
view, but not in the form, so table view is better for inserts.) Shrug.
Knoda is also far slower than paradox. It's even slower than paradox under wine.
Shrug.
Knoda can handle paradox 4 tables (the DOS generation file format for paradox)
as-is, but as paradox 7 works under wine that's not needed. Knoda can't handle
paradox 7 tables (the "windows" generation file format for paradox). Shrug.

Can't transfer paradox files to mysql using the nifty translation package
sqlyog, though, so I expect there'll be .cvs files with lots of "right, this
particular code is supposed to be "ä", this one is "ö", this one is "ñ", and so
on. Shrug. I don't need it for my tables - they're in knoda now, but I work on
database + php things for a friend, too.

Nvu is a nice wysiwyg .html editor; I use it instead of frontpage express. Every
now and then it freezes up completely, every so often it forgets that it's
supposed to open the bloody link link in a new tab so that I can edit it
already, and it insists on reformatting things to short-short-short-short lines.
Shrug.

Imagemagick works nicely; I use that for batch processing of pics instead of
Paint Shop Pro and Photoshop. It's _much_ faster than either of those. However,
I can't seem to get it to recognize new fonts (Arial Narrow? What's that?).
Shrug.

Things work, more or less.
Hetta

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